Al-‘Izzatulillah

Rather those who people refer to madkhalee are those who listen and learn from Shaikh Rabee, Shaikh Muhamamd al madkhalee and Shaikh Zayd al Madkhalee.

There is no point in listening to cult leaders like these.

The world is full of great scholars.

In any case, if you don’t speak Arabic, there are translated lectures out there, but alot tends to get lost in translation. There are exceptions to that though sometimes if the translator is talented.

I have heard some lectures from some old Ihya al-Turath conventions that were nicely translated because the translation was practically sentence by sentence.

Otherwise, listening to English lectures by good speakers is more effective.

Shaikh Rabee, Zayd and Muhammad Madkhalee are people of knowledge and are scholars. And it is keen on us to learn from them since there are salafi scholars who teach the book and the sunnah according to the understanding of the salaf. The world is not full of ulema. Just reflect on the hadith by Abdullahi ibn Amr Al as, found in Sahih Bukhari where the Prophet Muhammad Salllahu alaihi wa salam where he said which means, Verily Allah will not snatch away the knowledge from the chests of the scholars but rather he will take away the knowledge by taking away the scholars. Until there does not remain any scholar, the people will take ignorant leaders who will be asked questions and then give fatwa without knowledge. So they will go astray and cause others to go astray. We are living in this time where people who studied the deen for a short period of time or graduated from an islamic university and deem themselves worthy to give lectures and become imams for the people. As for english speakers most of them have issues regarding their manhaj, so it is upon us to first see who we take our knowledge from. As Muhammad ibn Seeran rahmulliah said, Knowledge is deen, so be careful who you take your deen from, this statement is found in sahih muslim. So it is upon us to first look uopn this person who we want to take our deen from and ask ourselves, did any ulema praise him or speak about him, who does he sit with the salafiyoon or the ahlul bidah. People such as Jamal ad din Zarbazo, and Yasir Qadhi, and the signing of the pledge have been refuted by the ulema. It is known that Imam Anwar Awlaki is an imam of an ikhwanee masjid, and is a jihadi who is known to speak of the ulema of our time. So for your statement that english speakers are better is in no doubt wrong, but rather it is much better to listen to the ulema since you attain knowledge. If arabic is your excuse then it is upon the muslims to learn arabic since you cannot learn or study too far unless you know arabic. you cannot understand and reflect upon it without arabic and study the classical books since they all are not translated so we cannot be running to the english speakers and hiding from the ulema. So my last advice is look to whom you take your deen from, since you must take from the ones who are known from the salafiyoon, known by the ulema. And english speakers who are upon the manhaj as saheeh are a few such as Moosa Richardson, Abdulilah lahmami, Mustafa George, Abu Talhah Dawood Burbank, Hasan as Somali, Abdul Malik Hasan, and others.

If you are a sincere seeker of the truth you should realized that this great scholar you seem to dislike and refute is the same one our Shaikh, Shaikh Alabani rahimullah praised greatly and Shaikh Uthaymeen rahimullah praised greatly and Shaikh Bin Baz praised greatly and all of the ulema who passed away recently and in the present praised for his been keen and for his love of the sunnah, the deen of allah for his knowledge and for him being upright and have taqwa of Allah as za wa jaal.

I can tell you are very influenced by al maghrib and there seminars and kauthar and there seminars, but you dont see that these instructors in almaghrib do not refer or call to the ulema and i mentioned to you Yasir Qadhi the ring leader and if you really want to see the truth go to youtube type in warnign against yasir qadhi and listen to his own teacher Shaikh Muhammad al Madkhalee hafidullah warning against him and his plege he singed and he said i see him in medina calling people to hinself, he use to give classes in his house and the shaikh said i never seen his students whom he called to sititing witht he ulema in medina except his professors who teach him, and Jamal Zarbazo the one who critcized shaikh albanee rahimullah on and on . Al Maghrib institute itself doesnt callt o the ulema and dont refer to the present day ulema. Yasir Qadhi mentioned himself that he takes form Salmaan Oudah who is refuted by the ulema becasue of his takferri ideas and kharaji ideas and Salmaan Hawali who shaikh uthaimaan rahimullah said he has khraijee ideas. This shaikh you speak about is well known to have knowledge and speak the truth, he is well known in Saudia Arabia but people in the west seem to look down upon it because when he speaks about an issue or individual your desires overcome this and cant accept this statement. so before going to a thread to see if an alim is correct you should see what the ulema say about him and we can see shaikh albani and shaikh uthaiman and shaikh bin baz praised him greatly and not one alim spoke ill about him except the misgudied youth and the misguided students of knowledge.

To put an end to this kalam,, i wanted to ask what masjid does Abu Salamah and Abu Haatha go to? And for the thread you send me i ve seen the people who spoke about Shaikh Rabee Al Madkhali and one was Suhaib Hasan who has been refuted by Shaikh Muqbil ibn Haaid al Wadiah rahimullah over 2 times, Shaikh Falah ibn Isma’il rahimullah from kuwait and many of the ulema. I dont know how to emphasize to you that all this misconceptions and kalam you hear about Shaikh rabee is false and he is someone who has knowledge and is from the kibaar of the ulmea and is someone to learn from.I can speak about troid because i ve been there on a number of occassions. Imam Bukhari rahimullah said in his chapter Knowledge precedes action or speech and Allah says in Surah Isra, do not speak about ALlah which you have no knowledge of , and Allah says in Surah Ar’aaf in the ending of an ayah which Allah mentions the prohibits things such as fawahish, opression, shirk, evil and sins and allah mentions and speak about Allah which you have no knowledge. So the foundation is speaking with Allah with knowledge and then you act and call to that and this is the same foundation mentioned by Shaikhul Islam Muhammad in Abdul Wahhab in hi s famous book Al Usool Ath Thalaath. Inshallh you will take heed of this.

Assalamu ‘alaykum,

1. Abu Nu’aym and ibn Khuzaimah, where in the world did you get the very false assumption that we are alMaghrib fanboys?

Where on earth did you get the bogus belief that we consider their instructors to be shuyookh and scholars, and the most revered and knowledgeable and all that?

I don’t make the alMaghrib flyers. I disagree with the alMagrib crew on more than a few things. But I’ve attended some of their courses. You want to know why? Who else teaches Tawheed and ‘Aqeedah of the salaf IN ENGLISH IN AMERICA? Hello? You there Abu Nu’aym? Please answer. Don’t avoid it like last time, thank you.

Subhan Allah. Please make me a list of the ‘approved’ people to take knowledge from. In the west, mind you. I do not reside in KSA, I reside in America. So do many Muslims. Most don’t know Arabic. So giving me a long list of the Arabic scholars does not help the Muslims here…

2. I take from ibn Baaz and ‘Uthaymeen and al-Albani like you do, don’t worry. Alhamdulillah, I respect them a lot. And I take from Saalih al-Fawzaan and other scholars too. I am not proficient in the Arabic language that I can read their books without problem and listen to their lectures regularly.

3. Abu Khuzaimah you joker, alMaghrib wishes to cut the people off from the scholars? LOLOL.

You mean the vast majority of their students who are youth ranging from the high school level to college level?

The ones who (mostly) don’t even speak Arabic?

The ones who (mostly) cannot name 10 classical scholars, let alone spell their names, let alone know what century they lived in, let alone know their stories?

The ones who (mostly) cannot [even] name 5 scholars who are considered kibaar al-’ulemaa`?

The ones who were NEVER CONNECTED TO THE SCHOLARS TO BEGIN WITH?? Oh. Those people.

Subhan Allah. Guard your tongue, guy. Is there a caller to Islam whom you have not slandered and warned people against and boycotted? Lol. And lol again.

4. Daa’ees like Anwar al-’Awlaki have done a great service to the english-speaking Muslims. The heart-softening stories of Seerah, and reminders of death and the Hereater, and stories of Sahabah (RAA) and their followers in righteousness… this kind of thing is (or was) almost non-existent in the english language.

Alhamdulillah, now it is available and we can’t even count how many youth returned to the Deen after hearing a lecture about the Hereater, or a beautiful story from Seerah and so on. All praise is due to Allah Alone.

Youth that don’t even attend the Masjid, nor do they know any Arabic. What connection does this kid have with ibn Baaz or ibn Jibreen? None at all.

Maybe he sees an alMaghrib flyer (with its exaggerations and whatnot), and his friend encourages him to go. And the rest is history, by Allah’s will. This kid has zero connection with the ‘ulemaa` whatsoever. What on earth is this lie that alMaghrib seeks to disconnect the innocent people from the scholars?

Allahu A’lam, wAllahul Musta’aan.

I await your list of scholars and approved callers to Islam in the west.

The above was not written in arrogance, I am not seeking to ridicule the Muslims in the west (I am from them) nor am I trying to ridicule you. I am, however, ridiculing the lie and slander that alMaghrib (and maybe other callers in the West) have evil intentions. Bring your proof if you are truthful.

Allahu A’lam.

Wa alaikum salam wa rahmatullah,

Bismillah,

1. As for the people calling to Salafiyyah in the west, to name a few, we have: the strong brothers from Salafi Publications, Abu Muhammad Al-Mughrabi, Moosa Richardson, Abu Uwais, Abu Hasan Malik, Mustafa George, Hasan Somali, Dawood Adeed, Abdulilah Luhmami, Dr. Saleh As-Saleh (arab English speaker in the east), Sheikh Muhammad Al-Maalikee, Abu Hafsah Kashiff Khan, Abu Zubayr Shadeed Muhammad, and this list goes on, just to give you an idea…

2 EDIT (Please give links instead of pasting it all on here)

3.
Read this extract from the pledge signed by some, if not many, of the Al-Mughrib instructors:
“Urge all teachers to instruct their students, especially those attending intensive programs, to respect the diverse nature of our communities and to refrain from aggressive challenges to local scholars, especially those known for their learning and piety”

I don’t want to get too much into this pledge of misguidance, but let’s analyze this extract;

a) “To respect the diverse nature of our communities”….respect? How can we respect these misguided individuals such as, Hamza Yusuf, Zaid Shakir, Yahya Rhodus, and the list goes on. What happened to commanding the good and forbidding the evil? Here they are, trying to “respect” an act that is from the greatest of evil, innovations.

b) “refrain from aggressive challenges to local scholars”….Local Scholar? Where are these scholars? WHO are these scholars that are in the west?

4. Anwar Al-‘Awlaki?, The same one who was in solitary confinement, and while in there, spent alot of his time read Sayyid Qutb’s tafsir of the Quran? Where Anwar said, “I would read between 100-150 pages a day”. The same Anwar Al-Awlaki who said about Sayyid, “Sayyid is a very prolific and eloquent writer…I would be so immersed with the author I would feel that Sayyid was with me in my cell speaking to me directly…. I lived with ‘In the Shade of the Quran’ for over a month. It carried me through and offered me solace during that period. May Allah reward him abundantly on the Day of Judgment”

Read what Sheikh Uthaymeen said about Sayyid Qutb and his tafseer of the Quran, I pasted it above, in point #2.
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As I mentioned before, the hadith of ‘Umar Bin ‘Abd-il-‘Azeez, where he said, “… And if you are not able
to be a student of knowledge, then love them. And if you can’t love them, then do not hate them.’ So ‘Umar said: ‘SubhaanAllaah! (Glory be to Allaah!) Allaah has indeed made a way out for this person.’”

Allah says in the Quran, “And hold fast, all of you together, to the Rope of Allâh (i.e. this Qur’ân), and be not divided among yourselves, and remember Allâh’s Favour on you…” [003:103]

‘Umar, radiallaahu’ anhu reports that the Prophet said, “Stick to the Jamaa’ah and beware of splitting, for Shaitaan is found along with the single person but is further from two. Whoever desires the centre of Paradise then let him stick to the Jamaa’ah. He whose good deed pleases him and his evil deed causes him to feel bad then he is a believer.”

Abu Umaamah al-Baahilee, radiallaahu ‘anhu, said, “Stick to the main body (as-Sawaadul – a’dham), so a man said, “What is the ‘Main Body’? So Abu Umaamah said,’This Ayah(54) in Soorah an-Noor:
“But if you turn away,he Muhammad is oniy responsible for the duty placed on him and you for that placed on you.”
Ibn Mas’ood, radiallahu ‘anhu, said,”The Jamaa’ah is what conforms to the truth, even if you are alone.” Reported by Ibn’Asaakir in Taareekh Dimashq with a saheeh isnaad as pointed out by Shaikh al-Albaanee in al-Mishkaat (1/61).

Draw your attention ya ikhwaan, baarakAllahu feekum, on the statement of Ibn Masood, radiallahu ‘anhu, on sticking to the Jamaa’ah, “..Even if you are ALONE!”

Let us not look at the numbers, but rather lets keep our attention on the Haqq, and there is no excuse for this, as ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab, rahimahullaah, said, “There is no excuse for anyone going astray thinking that he is upon guidance, nor for abandoning guidance thinking it to be misguidance, since the affairs have been made clear, the proof established and the excuse cut off.”

May Allah, the most high, free from all deficiencies, guide all of us to as-siraatul mustaqeen.
Jazakumullahu khairan wa barakallahu Feekum,

Your brother in Islaam,
Abu Khuzaimah

damn Abu Salamah
these madkhalis are wack lol.
Abu Nu’aym, man I thought you was cool too.